Posted by
Playful Walrus on Monday, November 17, 2008 12:49:56 PM
Although the paper and or the movement seems to be slowing down, there was still plenty of coverage to notice over the weekend.
Tony Barboza, Cara Mia DiMassa and Jessica Garrison had this story promoting – er, um – talking about rallies.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger told a Times editorial board meeting Friday that proponents of gay marriage should take the issue again to the California Supreme Court and review the strategies that failed to persuade voters to defeat Proposition 8.
"I can't imagine for them to say anything else but what they've already said, that it's unconstitutional," Schwarzenegger said of the state high court's ruling on earlier barriers to gay marriage.
No, it is constitutional if it is in the constitution. Which it is now. Next!
Organizers have marches planned across the country, from Boston to Anchorage.
Gee, I wonder why that is? Are they admitting that their strategy had been to use California to neuter marriage everywhere? The people of California voted. People in other states don’t get a say.
The owners of El Coyote Mexican Café have caved in and given business funds to the homofascists because a manager/family member of an owner donated to Prop 8. Tami Abdollah has the story.
The Thursday online donation to Equality California, an advocacy group for the gay and lesbian community, came at precisely 7:22:03 p.m., about 22 minutes into a planned demonstration outside the restaurant's doors for the second night in a row.
Guess I can’t eat there anymore.
Over the last week, online social networking sites and blogs have urged people to boycott El Coyote Mexican Cafe on Beverly Boulevard because of the $100 donation by Marjorie Christoffersen, a manager at the restaurant and a daughter of El Coyote's owner, who is Mormon,
Christoffersen, also Mormon, met with protesters Wednesday, and at one point broke down in tears. But some activists said they still faulted her for making the donation.
You are not allowed to think and speak for yourself. You must kneel before the homofascists! Praise their sodomy, or else!
One server called in Thursday worried about going into work. Thursday night crowds grew to about 200 people, and customers leaving the restaurant were called vulgarities, Crenshaw said.
Classy.
Maura Dolan’s article looks for possible clues from an event where members of the California Supreme Court were present.
The court is pondering legal challenges to Proposition 8, which restored the ban on same-sex marriage.
It was just as much a ban on marrying your pet. Why don’t they mention that? If they wanted to be accurate, it would be that it restored traditional marriage licensing.
Former Gov. Pete Wilson, one of the speakers, said the court should defer to the other branches of government and refrain from making policy on its own.
We voted on this. The state has decided. Now, it is either federal or nothing.
An appellate lawyer on a panel observed the court's obligation "to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority."
What about protecting the majority from the tyranny of the minority?
And justices from other states warned that voters are increasingly throwing state Supreme Court justices off the bench after heated campaigns by special interest groups.
Sounds like a good iea.
With the justices only a few feet away, Santa Clara University Law School Professor Gerald Uelmen opined that the court could not overturn Proposition 8 without also admitting that its May 15 decision improperly revised the state Constitution.
Interesting point. And what about domestic partnerships? How can they neuter marriage without opening up those, too?
Jessica Garrison Corina Knoll reported on Saturday’s rallies.
The Los Angeles Police Department estimated that 10,000 to 12,000 people attended the event, well below the 40,000 the department had expected.
They're too busy whining on Facebook.
Still, demonstrators called the event a success, noting that participants had been galvanized by a loosely organized grass-roots campaign that sprang up after the Nov. 4 election.
Grass roots? You’ve got to be kidding me. Homosexuality advocates have long been organized.
A representative of the Proposition 8 campaign said the protests would have little effect. "They can protest all they like, and it doesn't change the fact that Prop. 8 has passed and the election is now over," said Frank Schubert, manager for the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign.
Amen.
Saturday's date held a special significance for Los Angeles marchers Carol Kirkman and Margaret Gonzalez. It was supposed to be their wedding day.
I know of a lot of same-sex couples who had "weddings" before 2008. So this is irrelevant to the discussion.
A contract analyst at an insurance company, Hunter said of the proposition: "It's misguided. God doesn't hate what he or she has created."
Heh. I don’t want to hear any more complaints about hurricanes, then.
Hunter recently married the Rev. Dan Hooper, pastor at Hollywood Lutheran Church.
I’m sure Martin Luther would be proud. About the only thing in the name of that place that makes sense, apparently, is "Hollywood". The article then goes over some of the signs at the protests:
"If heaven discriminates, I don't want to go."
You don’t have to. Would you want to go somewhere that has no discrimination? You probably don’t even want to go to a club that allows people without any fashion sense inside.
"The same Bible was used to justify slavery."
Erroneously. And it was used to justify charity, and building hospitals and universities.
"Hmm. . . . What's so traditional about polygamy?"
Longer tradition than neutered marriage, that’s for sure. But the LDS church does not practice polygamy currently. Regardless, that still united the sexes.
"Where's My Gay Tax Break?"
How about tax reform in general?
"I was born gay. You were taught religion."
Prove it. It is irrelevant to the discussion anyway.
"My brother is getting married . . . again. Why can't I get married once?"
You're free to get married. Apparently, you don’t want to.
"Only my wife should care if I marry a man."
Okay, but when you ask us for a license, you make it our concern.
The Rev. Penny Nixon, senior minister at the Congregational Church of San Mateo, led the rally in a massive group hug in San Francisco.
"You are loved, and no one can take that away," she told the crowd. Demonstrators cheered and began hugging one another, repeating her words.
Awwwww. Isn’t that sweet? Nice way to end the article.
Tim Rutten used his column to say that both sides need to cool down. I disagree. I say the marriage defenders need to step it up.
The electoral contest over Proposition 8 was a low, dishonest affair -- the deception made worse by the fact that so much of it was financed by religious organizations, like the Mormon church and the Catholic Knights of Columbus.
I don’t think the LDS church financed it – I think it was individual Mormons. Still, I don’t see how this is "worse". What’s wrong with people speaking their minds? It was the marriage neutering side that was dishonest and low, and they are proving that with their open fascism right now.
Writing in Sacramento's Capitol Weekly, Jon Fleischman, former executive director of the state Republican Party, growled: "If the court overturns 8, I think you will be able to count the days before a very organized and well-funded recall of the justices voting to do that will begin.”
What’s wrong with that? If the court again tramples on the rights of voters, we’re not going to sit idly by. Sure, the judges that replace them will likely be just as bad, but at least the perps would have been held accountable.
Put aside for a minute the fact that if the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark 1954 ruling in Brown vs. Board of Education had been submitted to a national referendum, swaths of this country probably still would have legally segregated schools.
Have you been the public schools? They are still segregated – by choice. At universities, various groups clamor for segregation. Latinos want their own dorms, for example.
By the same token, groups of gay activists, angry over Proposition 8's passage, have begun what could amount to a witch hunt if it continues.
At least he recognizes that.
There were also some letters on the "homosexual vs. black" angle.
So much heat. Not a lot of light.