Posted by
Playful Walrus on Monday, November 17, 2008 3:32:48 PM
I saw this on a social networking site. It claims to be the real "gay agenda". My previous comments on this topic are here.
This is what prop 8 was really about…read it and let me know if you truly agree that people should be denied the following:
Freedom from discrimination in employment and housing in all 50 states.
I'm for property rights, freedom of association, and free markets. As such, I believe that an employer should be able to hire, promote, demote, or fire anyone for any or no reason, property sellers should be able to sell or not for their own reasons, and landlords should be able to rent or not to anyone. But I also recognize that, to collectively correct a history of injustices against people based on nothing more than their birth (blacks, Jewish, Irish, Chinese, Latinos, female), we brought in nondiscrimination laws. Perhaps it is time to do away with them.
But as long as we have them, they should at least apply to aspects of a person’s identity that are clearly beyond their control – the circumstances of their birth. If we’re going to continue to extend them to behavior-linked aspects of personal identities, such as sexual orientation, I wonder where it is going to stop. And religion should not be dropped in that case, especially since is an enumerated right.
Are the Sore Loser protestors respecting our freedom of religion, speech, and voting?
Also, I fail to see how this relates to Prop 8.
The right to visit our partners in the hospital and to take family leave.
This should be a matter for individual hospitals and employers. Why should government mandate someone get "family leave" and an unpartnered, childless orphan only child not get any time off? If I was an employer who chose to give family leave, I would extend it to domestic partners.
Also, I fail to see how this related to Prop 8. In California, domestic partners are treated as spouses.
The right of gay youth to grow up free from intimidation, bullying and violence.
Does anyone really have a right to be free from intimidation? Bullying and violence should be prevented or punished regardless of the reason, unless the violence is in self-defense. Look, people get teased for just about any reason while growing up. That’s life.
Also, I fail to see how this related to Prop 8.
The right to serve openly and proudly in the United States military.
Is it really a good idea to put possible sex partners in combat situations and close living quarters together? I don’t think so. And serving in the military is not a right. People are turned down all of the time for various reasons.
Also, I fail to see how this related to Prop 8.
The right to obtain health care benefits, pensions and Social Security through our partners and spouses.
Health care benefits are not a right. Neither are pensions. Those are things that should be worked out between and employer and an employee. If employers want to voluntarily extend those to same-sex partners, then fine. In the past, that was largely done because of the division of labor within a bride-groom couple and the likelihood that they would naturally produce children together.
Social Security is a pyramid scheme and Prop 8 has no effect on it.
The right not to lose custody of our children merely because we are gay, and the right to adopt.
One only has the right to have children insofar as that person can find a willing partner of the opposite sex with whom they can create children. And if they mistreat those children, they lose custody. There is no right to adopt. Children should ideally have both a mother and a father.
Prop 8 would likely have assisted homosexuality advocates in preventing bride-groom couples from getting preference in adoption.
Immigration rights for foreign partners and spouses of gay Americans.
There is no right to immigrate into the United States. Immigration should benefit the U.S. Overall, though, I do not see a compelling reason to exclude anyone from immigration based on their homosexuality – as long as we don’t have socialized medicine.
Also, I fail to see how this related to Prop 8 as immigration is a federal issue.
Inheritance rights for our partners.
Write up a will or form a trust. DONE!
The right to marry.
You are free to "marry" anyone. However, there is no right to a state-issued license. This IS what Prop 8 was about.
Equality and respect for all individuals and their families.
Sorry – respect is earned and different families are not equal. Some are larger than others, some are more accomplished than others. Some marriage neutering activists certainly aren’t acting respectful.
Why is so much of this agenda socialist or statist?