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On the Manhattan Declaration

You may have heard of the Manhattan Declaration, which was recently unveiled. It has been signed and touted by people  identified as Christians, but from a wide variety of denominations and creeds, who find a common cause in standing up for:

1. The sanctity of human life.  
2. The sanctity of marriage.  
3. The protection of religious liberty.  
4. The rejection of unjust laws.  

There are always going to be people upset with Roman Catholics team up with Protestants, or some other combination of that sort happens, because these people are vehemently opposed to some of the doctrines, practices, and personalities of one or the other. But the Manhattan Declaration isn't a doctrinal creed, or a charter for a unified church. Nowhere in the document are Roman Catholics called to become Southern Baptists or vice-versa. There's nothing in the document that offends my faith, and I'm curious as to know what in the document offends the faith of any follower of Christ. Merely attracting the signature of someone with whom I have a strong theological disagreement does not make a document unworthy of my own support. Otherwise, there are a lot of good things I would have to avoid because they are also supported by those people.

This document is a call for anyone who calls themselves Christian to stand up for basic Christian principles in the most important cultural matters. Without religious liberty, squabbling between Roman Catholics and Lutherans is a luxury. We have let ideological minorities use ever increasing and centralized government power to try to compel us to support murder, the neutering of marriage, and the removal of theistic or Christian references from the public square. We need to resist this.

A clue that the document is a good thing is that the Los Angeles Times editorial board doesn't like it.

After starting out their editorial musing about civil disobedience and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., during which the editorial reveres King because he was standing up for things they like, they go on to write...
That cautious approach has been thrown to the wind by Christian religious leaders who, even as they insist on their right to shape the nation's laws, are reserving the right to violate them in situations far removed from King's witness.
The editorial doesn't explain how this is so. It is an assertion based on the board's disagreement on the issues.

They go on to quote the document, indicating they have read it...
"Because we honor justice and the common good, we will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality. . . . We will fully and ungrudgingly render to Caesar what is Caesar's. But under no circumstances will we render to Caesar what is God's."

Strong words, but also irresponsible and dangerous ones.
Dangerous? Perhaps to agendas that would be more easily accomplished with a passive Church standing on the sidelines.
The idea that same-sex civil marriage will undermine religious marriage is a canard Californians will remember from the campaign for Proposition 8, as is the declaration's complaint that Christian leaders are being prevented from expressing their "religious and moral commitments to the sanctity of life and to the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife."
State marriage licenses reflect the official policy of the state. If they are neutered, coupled with other laws and court decisions, the state policy of neutered marriage would inevitably encroach upon religious freedom and devalue marriage. It also takes away the general liberty of self-government when it is imposed upon the people by the few.
This sweeping claim is supported by anecdotes of the sort radio talk-show hosts purvey.
So if a radio talk show host discusses it, it can't be true? At least it is "sweeping", rather than "dangerous".
This apocalyptic argument for lawbreaking is disingenuous, but it is also dangerous.
Again, "dangerous", and now "apocalyptic". Read it for yourself. Does it sound dangerous?
Did the Roman Catholic bishops who signed the manifesto consider how their endorsement of lawbreaking in a higher cause might embolden the antiabortion terrorists they claim to condemn?
Speaking out against abortion = murder, you see. Never mind the fact that abortion = murder. By this reasoning, the editorial board is inciting violence against Christians.
Did they stop to think that, by reserving the right to resist laws they don't like, they forfeit the authority to intervene in the enactment of those laws, as they have done in the congressional debate over healthcare reform?
This is so muddled. Of course we can resist laws we don't like (why would we resist laws we like?), and still participate in lawmaking. That's exactly what happened in the civil rights movement of the 1950s/1960s. The board has called for resistance of the California Marriage Amendment. So I guess this is a matter of, "Christians shouldn't stand up for what they believe. Only people who agree with us should."?
They need to be reminded that this is a nation of laws, not of men -- even holy men.
You mean like where they write:
As Christians, we take seriously the Biblical admonition to respect and obey those in authority. We believe in law and in the rule of law. We recognize the duty to comply with laws whether we happen to like them or not, unless the laws are gravely unjust or require those subject to them to do something unjust or otherwise immoral.
…like that?

Again - read the document yourself. You may want to sign it after you do.
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Some Things Can't Be Erased

Matea Gold has a piece on actor Ian McKellen in the Los Angeles Times because of new project in which he appears. Previous articles on McKellen have noted his ongoing defacing of the Holy Bible, and that is brought up again here.
"I increasingly see organized religion as actually my enemy. They treat me as their enemy," said the British actor, who came out 20 years ago. "Not all Christians, of course. Not all Jews, not all Muslims. But the leaders. . . . Why should I take the judgment of a declared celibate about my sexual needs? He's basing his judgment on laws that would fit life in the Bronze Age. So if I'm lost to God, organized religion is to blame."
This is the experience of far too many, I’m afraid.

I know Roman Catholic priests are required to remain unmarried and celibate, but most Christian denominations allow - even expect - that their leaders will marry.

McKellen may have been treated poorly by people being lousy ambassadors for Christ. But if he had always been treated with respect by all he encountered who identified themselves as Christian, would he then have no problem with "organized religion"? Somehow, I think the larger problem here is the Bible's teaching that sex is for marriage and that marriage unites the sexes.

I noticed one of the other actors in his recent project is Jim Caviezel, the Christian actor who portrayed Jesus in "The Passion of the Christ". I wonder how those two got along?
McKellen revealed his sexuality at age 49 on a British radio show during a debate about anti-gay legislation. He says it's the most important thing he's ever done, and when he's not acting, he spends much of his time lobbying for gay rights. He visits schools in England as part of a program to prevent gay bullying. When he finds a Bible in a hotel room, he rips out the passage in Leviticus that condemns homosexuality.
The problem with this approach is that the whole of the Bible teaches that sex is for marriage, and that marriage unites the sexes. There are also other passages that specifically note that homosexual behavior goes against the holiness of God, as does any other sex or sex-like behavior outside of marriage.
In his view, Hollywood still hasn't come that far in its attitude toward gays.
I think part of this has to do with Hollywood often trying to be all things to all people. Producers are afraid that too much of the audience will not be able to suspend disbelief when it comes to an actor’s sexuality. Even though audiences can believe McKellen is a wizard, they can’t believe him carrying on a romance with a woman – at least, that’s what the producers seem to think. I think they underestimate their audience.
"There are still times in my life where I pull back from being totally honest," he said quietly, "and I can't imagine a single straight person who would understand that."
There are a lot of Hollywood Christians who would definitely understand that.

Well, McKellen may deface the Holy Bible, Viggo Mortensen may be a Lefty whacko, and Sean Astin may be somewhat of a Leftist (and who knows about most of the rest of the cast and crew?), but I still love Peter Jackson's "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy. J.R.R. Tolkien's Christian worldview shines through, and John Rhys-Davies is enough to offset the politics of his outspoken Leftist co-stars.

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The Vatican Reaches Out to Conservative Anglicans

Looks like Anglicans not happy with the direction of their denomination will find it easier to be accepted into the Roman Catholic Church. Associated Press writer Nicole Winfield has the story.
The Vatican announced a stunning decision Tuesday to make it easier for Anglicans to convert, reaching out to those who are disaffected by the election of women and gay bishops to join the Catholic Church's conservative ranks.
It is not simply "gay bishops". It is a matter of putting people in places of leadership who openly and unrepentantly violate Biblical morality in their behavior, the mocking of marriage, and the celebrating of those two things.
Pope Benedict XVI approved a new church provision that will allow Anglicans to join the Catholic Church while maintaining many of their distinctive spiritual and liturgical traditions, including having married priests.
I wonder what traditional Roman Catholics think about that?
The new Catholic church entities, called personal ordinariates, will be units of faithful established within local Catholic Churches, headed by former Anglican prelates who will provide spiritual care for Anglicans who wish to be Catholic.

They would most closely resemble Catholic military ordinariates, special units of the church established in most countries to provide spiritual care for the members of the armed forces and their dependents.
Interesting.
Anglicans split with Rome in 1534 when English King Henry VIII was refused a marriage annulment.
I know that’s the standard, drive-by schoolbook portrayal of the situation, but would Anglicans describe it that way? I'm not an Anglican or a Roman Catholic, and I haven't really been keeping up on the finer points of the differences in their practice and doctrines. While my basic first impression is, "Hey, now that Henry is long dead, why can't they get back together?" But there's a lot more history than that.
The new canonical provision allows married Anglican priests and even seminarians to become ordained Catholic priests - much the same way that Eastern rite priests who are in communion with Rome are allowed to be married. However, married Anglicans couldn't become Catholic bishops.
In contrast, it is strongly expected in "evangelical" Protestant circles that the leaders and teachers be married.
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Shrouded

The news has been reporting that someone claims he has reproduced the Shroud of Turin using medieval technology.

My faith in Jesus Christ and His resurrection is not based on the Shroud. For sure, if the Shroud is actually a burial garment of Jesus', then it adds another reason to believe. But if the Shroud is a later work of ingenious art, then my faith is not lessened in the least.  Furthermore, even if someone shows that close reproduction was possible using later technology (which may have happened here), this does not prove the Shroud is a later work of art and not a burial cloth for Jesus.

There's a side to me that thinks it good if all physical artifacts involved in any miracle of Jesus or His crucifixion have been lost to history in the same way that I am glad we don't know with any certainty the actual birth date of Jesus. Astrologers, and those taken with astrology would make too much of His birthdate, just as too many people would focus on the wood or the iron or cloth that came into contact with Jesus - a thing - rather than focusing on Jesus and having a relationship with Him.

My faith in the resurrection of Jesus is based on objective reality and affirmed by my subjective experience (I know He lives in me). We have good reasons to believe Jesus was a man of history who was crucified, that He was buried, and that He subsequently appeared alive to many different people in different situations; and that His tomb was empty. All other explanations to cover those things are lacking. So I do believe that Jesus rose from the dead, resurrected and glorified, and I do believe what He taught - shroud or no shroud
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More Response to the APA

In a recent blog entry, I looked at a media account of the APA's latest materials regarding people with unwanted homosexual feelings.

Here are a few recent items on the Stand to Reason blog that are of interest in this area:

Can Homosexuals Change?

Get to Know a Former Homosexual

Also: What is a general principle to determine what in the Old Law applies to Christians under the New Covenant?  

Again, this is in response to the idea that someone who wants to deal with homosexual feelings in a Biblically appropriate way shouldn’t be told that they can change.  This is not about forcing anyone to stop engaging in homosexual behavior.  If someone wants to live by the Biblical teachings that sex is for marriage and that marriage unites the sexes, then they should know that there is hope for them.

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Paul to Timothy: Take Some Wine For Your Stomach

Catherine Lyons, over on the LATimes.com opinion blog, asks if the right to life stops when a child is born.  She is specifically is referring to a perceived lack of concern by pro-lifers when it comes to parents who pray for their children instead of seeking medical treatment for them.
Dale Neumann was convicted Saturday of killing his 11-year-old daughter, Madeline, because he prayed for her instead of taking her to a hospital when her undiagnosed diabetes got so bad that she couldn't eat, drink, walk or speak. She died on the floor of her rural Wisconsin home with her father, mother and a group of people praying for her healing. Neumann says he was simply putting his faith first and following the will of God, but a jury found him guilty of second-degree reckless homicide.
If he believes the Bible is authoritative, then for what it is worth, the Bible does not advise believers to forgo medical treatment, nor promise the faithful healing and health in this lifetime.  See here for more info.  Christian parents should pray for their children and seek medical treatment for them.
This event raises serious questions about the conflict between individual rights and governmental power, just as abortion does. Both involve innocent and dependent lives with no real power to contest a parent's choices.
Actually, I think there is - it is called taking the child into protective custody.  If it can be demonstrated that a parent is abusing or neglecting a child, that is what should be done.  I believe in parental authority over minors and freedom of religion, but both have their limits.  For example, other than abortion, or the post-partum/hormonal defense by women, we do not allow people to get away with child sacrifice.
Isn't this a Right to Life issue? And if it is, where are the Right to Lifers?
Well, I think I qualify as a pro-lifer, as I believe in the sanctity of human life from conception through natural death.  I support the prosecution and conviction of Dale Neumann.

I'd like to turn this question around, though.  What about someone who denies treatment, or even just hydration, to a comatose adult?  Why is that okay but denying treatment to a diabetic child is prosecutable as murder?

I also want to point out that the right to life means protection from someone else killing you - obviously, we all die one way or another.  It can be argued that Neumann contributed to the death of his child by refusing to get her readily available, established treatment.

God ordains the means and the ends.  If medical treatments can help, do not avoid them.  Prayer is great, but there is no reason why it can't be done in conjunction with medical treatment.  From everything I've read and experienced, prayer's primary function is to get is to focus on God (not to "change God's mind"), and you can do that while also using medicine.  Unless God has given you special, specific revelation, then refusing the medical abilities He has provided to people so as to demonstrate "faith" is mere superstition, akin to thinking your mother's spine will be damaged because you stepped on a crack on the sidewalk.

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Anglican Leader Speaks Up on Episcopalians

Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams has said that recent moves by the Episcopalians towards celebrating unrepentant sin might necessitate changes the role of the Episcopalians.  Duke Helfand of the Los Angeles Times has the story.
Williams, spiritual leader of the communion, spoke of a "two-tier" or "two-track" model -- one path for those who remain part of the communion's "covenantal structure," and another with "fewer formal expectations" for those who value autonomy.
Uh, I know I'm probably oversimplifying here, but aware Roman Catholics are probably getting a chuckle out of all of this, seeing as how the Anglican Church got to be a separate deal from the RCC.
Episcopalians greeted Williams' letter with a range of emotions. Some criticized him, saying his proposals would relegate their church to second-class status.
Maybe they’re right.  Maybe he should try to get the Episcopalians kicked out entirely.

If the Anglican Church is going to be serious about making Christian disciples, it can't have entire branches celebrating what is clearly sinful behavior (according to the Bible) as a matter of policy.

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Losing Their Religion?

Have you heard that Americans are prone to change religions?  Well, it might not be what you think.  Duke Helfand of the Los Angeles Times reports on a Pew Forum survey.
Americans are fickle consumers of religion, with about half changing religious affiliations at least once in their lives as they drift away from childhood traditions or stop believing in the teachings of their faiths, according to a national survey released Monday.
By contrast, Iran doesn't have any converts, at least not away from Islam.  Just like it doesn't have any homosexuals.
Monday's survey, based on follow-up interviews with 2,800 people, delved more deeply into the reasons behind the religious churn among Roman Catholics, Protestants and the unaffiliated. Jews, Muslims and other groups were not included because their numbers were not large enough to produce reliable results, the researchers said.
Uh, so these were basically "Christians" going from one Christian church to another, or dropping out of churchgoing, or starting up churchgoing.  When most people hear "changing religions", they’re thinking of someone going from some form of Christianity to some form of Judaism, or vice-versa, or from Hinduism to Islam, or something like that.  Meanwhile, there are probably people saying that they haven't changed or dropped their religion, identifying with their family’s Christian denomination, even though they make to church twice a year, if at all.
Many without religious belief also said they found religious people to be hypocritical, judgmental or insincere.
Okay let’s take those one at a time.

Hypocritical – This is an often misused term.  People erroneously apply it to people who did something in the distant past, but now agree that doing such a thing is wrong.  It can even be misapplied when it is used of someone who has recently done someone even though they have agreed that such a thing is wrong.  A hypocrite is someone who publicly professes to believe one thing, but they actually believe something else that is contradictory.  Now, a person's behavior may be an indication of their beliefs, but sometimes people do act against their beliefs.  Are there traditionally religious people who do any of these things?  Yes.  But people do these sorts of things – across all religious identities.  Some people seem to be just fine with people doing sleazy things, as long as they have never spoken out against doing those things.

Judgmental – Sorry, but you can't go through life without making judgments.  We all do.  The important thing is to judge rightly.  "Judge not lest ye be judged", in context, isn't telling us not to make judgments.  It is letting us know that we are not above judgment.  Christians are to confess their sins.  None of us knows for sure the heart of anyone else, and it isn't our place to judge someone else's destiny.  But we can certainly judge their actions and their words.  Really, this reason for leaving a church or a religion smacks of "I want to live my way, without anyone expressing disapproval."  Being a part of a congregation includes peer pressure, and if you read the Bible, Jesus makes a lot of judgments and tells some people what they are doing is wrong.

Insincere – Yup, there sure are people in religious organizations that are insincere, just like there are insincere people everywhere.  If you believe the spiritual or organizational leader of your church is insincere (like, say, if you are a Roman Catholic and you believe the Pope is insincere), then I can understand leaving the church.  But I just don't see doing it if you think one of the ushers in insincere.
In most cases, former Catholics who are now unaffiliated said they were dissatisfied with the church's teachings on abortion, homosexuality, birth control or treatment of women.
Such people either don’t believe in the authority of the church, nor the Bible; or they are knowingly running away from something they believe to be true for the sake of comfort or convenience.  Although I'm not aware of what the RCC does to women that is so bad.  Maybe someone can enlighten me?
More than two-thirds of those Catholics who switched to Protestantism, meanwhile, said that their spiritual needs were not being met and that they found another religion they preferred.
Sadly, there are Protestant churches that refuse to recognize the sinfulness of abortion or sexual behavior outside of marriage.
The survey also showed that 80% of those raised as Protestants have remained so. But more than a quarter of them have switched to a different Protestant tradition -- for example, changing from Presbyterian to Episcopalian.
Is that really a big deal?

I'm thinking some of the people who have "dropped out" have done so for reasons they are not stressing to others – such as having a falling out with other congregants, not wanting to be asked to get involved (especially financially), not wanting to deal with the schedule (getting up on Sunday morning, etc.) – stuff like that.

That is not to say that there aren't people who have serious doubts or disillusionments that have cause them to leave the religion in which they were raised.  The Church should not be letting people fall out of the back door because they are concentrating too much on getting people in through the front door.

I wasn't really raised in a religious home.  There was mostly sporadic church attendance, and not by the whole family.  Since becoming an adult, I have attended churches other than that particular denomination.  I don't (and didn't) look for a church that is going to give its stamp of approval on my lifestyle.  In fact, there were times I was attending church  and listening to sermons against something I was doing - that helped me to move away from my sin.  I choose a church based first and foremost on how it teaches the Bible, then how it is making and treating disciples.  Is it a place where I can serve others?  It is healthy and well-balanced?  Is it a place where I can grow in my walk as a follower of Christ?  If not, I don't want to spend my time there, take others there, or give money to it.

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If Friday Was Good, Sunday Was Spectacular

A carpenter, with questionable parentage, from an unremarkable town, walked the countryside.  He attracted followers, keeping twelve with him and three of those especially close as he spoke to groups large and small.  He was part of an oppressed group - a Jew in a Roman-occupied part of the world. He said and did things that confounded the dominant religious authorities of the day. People flocked to him for a miracle.  There was something he claimed that was outrageous to his fellow Jews: He was G-d.  Arrogance? Insanity? Fraud?  From a man who urged people to forgive each other and love each other?

For thousands of years, it had been pounded into the minds and hearts of the Jews that there was ONE G-d and that He was spirit, not an idol that could be kept in a room.  He was a unique, personal being, not a "force" or something we call could be or have if we meditated enough.  And yet here was a Jew, this guy who was extremely familiar with the scriptures – including the ones that said there was just one G-d - walking around claiming to be G-d.  He wasn't part of the recognized system of priests and religious leaders, so he posed a threat to them and their comfortable, established way of doing things.  This guy even had the nerve to disrupt their moneymaking schemes.

Enough was enough!

They handed this guy over to the Romans and demanded that he be executed. He was a threat to the religious leaders, and since he'd claimed to be a king, he must be a threat to the Romans, too.  Furthermore, anyone claiming to G-d was being blasphemous, right?  The Roman leader, while spooked a little, didn't find anything wrong with the man, especially after the man explained that his kingdom wasn't of this world.  Yet the Romans needed to keep order, and people were demanding that this "king" die.  The "king" was taken and scourged - whipped so brutally that his skin was shredded.  That wasn't enough.  The people wanted this "king" to die.  And so this carpenter, who had worked with wood for years to make useful things for other people, was forced to carry the very wood he'd be nailed to so that he could hang on a cross bleeding and losing his ability to breathe.

This man who'd preached loved and forgiveness, who had urged people to turn from their sins, who had healed the sick, who had done some controversial things but never anything wrong, was beaten and executed, all in excruciating pain.

That was what we now call "Good" Friday.

If that was all that happened, most of us would never have heard of Good Friday.  Someone may have mentioned this carpenter in an obscure list of Jews who claimed to the Messiah, but most of us would never have heard of this Nazarene.

But it wasn't all that happened.

On Sunday morning, once the holy days and feasts were over, some people who loved this carpenter were returning to care for his body as a final sign of respect.

The body was gone, though.  Nobody ever found the body.  To their shock, this Jesus, who had been scourged and killed, was alive and well - very well - though he still had the holes in his hands from the nails and the hole in his side where a spear had shoved into him to make sure he was dead.  He talked with them, they embraced him, they felt him, they ate with him.  He'd come and go as he pleased over the next several weeks.  Finally, having done what he'd set out to do, he was taken away in a "cloud"... probably a description of what appeared to be a blindingly bright light.

Because of that Sunday when Jesus was first seen alive after being killed, we now have this Good Friday.  Why is this Friday "Good"?

It is no coincidence that Jesus was executed during the Passover season (the Last Supper was a Passover Seder).  Many years before, when the Jews were enslaved in Egypt, there was a night when they slaughtered lambs "without defect" and placed the blood of a lamb on their doorways.  Overnight, when the Lord passed through Egypt with righteous judgment, the firstborn of every household was struck down - but the Lord "passed over" the homes with the blood.  The Jews were subsequently freed from their slavery.

John the Baptist referred to Jesus as "the Lamb who takes away the sins of the world."  Jesus was the ultimate Passover Lamb "without defect" who shed his blood to free all of us from our enslavement to sin.  That Friday was Good because it is the day that our sins against G-d were paid for... by someone other than us!

But that Sunday...

We've all dealt with death in our lives.  We've all had loved ones that have died.  Thousands of years of recorded history tell us that dead people stay dead.

Yet this miracle-working carpenter was seen alive after his death.  People touched him, talked with him, ate with him.  They stuck their fingers in his wounds.

Being modern people, we are understandably skeptical of this.  We don't have video proof.  But what we do have is history, and the testimony of those who were there.  Good Friday had left the followers of Jesus afraid and feeling defeated.  They had shown themselves to be cowardly, and their leader was now dead.

If Easter (Resurrection) Sunday did not happen, how did such people go on to change the world?  Unless they actually encountered a resurrected Jesus, these people would have no reason to face ostracism and martyrdom to proclaim that resurrection and spread the teachings of Jesus.  It is easy to deny the truth to save your life.  Would people be willing to give up everything they had and die for something they knew to be a lie?  No way!

So what does this all mean for me today?  It means that I have a way to be right with G-d, because even though I have done things against Him, Good Friday was the day that those sins were paid for.  I am forgiven.  I also have someone who is my friend, my advocate, someone who knows what it is like to live life on Earth and knows what it is like to feel pain, suffer loss, and to die.  And that Someone has promised me that if I follow Him, everything will be okay.  Death is not the end.  He has conquered death, and someday death, pain, and sorrow will be taken away from me.  He has backed up His "blasphemous claims" with action, showing them not to be blasphemous at all.

He doesn't want me to cut the heads off of people just because they don't believe in Him.  He doesn't want me to fly airliners into skyscrapers to kill people going about their lives.  He wants me to do things like love others and take care of the needs of others.  This is why so many have built hospitals, universities, and charities in His name.

It isn't about going to church regularly.  It isn't about trying to convince people that my life is perfect.  It isn't about making sure I can retire wealthy.  It isn't about getting everyone else to see things the way I do. It isn't even about keeping a checklist of rules and sticking to that checklist.  It isn't about "getting it right" on my own before I can approach G-d, because that will never happen.

It IS about having a peace with G-d, knowing that He forgives the horrible things I've done and may yet still do if I simply ask Him to.  It is about having fellowship with that Nazarene who rose from the grave and still lives, because He deserves my allegiance and because He did life right.

There are people who believe that everything is an accident, a series of extremely unlikely coincidences.  Sunsets. Surf. Waterfalls. Roses. Redwood trees. Chocolate.  Wine.  Galaxies.  Eagles. Puppies. Kittens. Sex.  Newborn babies.  Those are all accidents?  I don't think so.  All of the complexity in the cells of our own bodies, all of the symbiotic systems of the natural world, where organisms depend on each other for survival.  Those all "just happened"?  I don't think so.  The world is beautiful and amazing, and it is not accidental or inconsequential that a Jew who was without sin and claimed to be G-d suffered and died at Passover and then rose from the dead.

Yes, there is something broken about the world, as evidenced by all of the suffering.  But the fix is in.  The victory was demonstrated almost 2000 years ago.  I can't ignore that.  That has to have an impact in my life, how I view life, and how I live life.  My Lord humbled Himself, suffered and died for me.  And then, He beat death, and someday, He's going to kick death - and its parent, sin - down the stairs, and shut the door on them.  The world won't be broken anymore.  I can't know everything about what the future will bring, but as long as I'm holding on to Him, I'll be in the best company there is.  And since I love Him, as long as I'm around, I should seek to love others, meet their needs, and follow His lead.

May you have a reflective Good Friday and a Joyous Resurrection Sunday.

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Evangelical Collapse?

Another day, another obituary for "evangelical Christianity" and our influence in politics.  This time, Michael Spencer, who blogs at InternetMonk.com and describes himself as "a postevangelical reformation Christian in search of a Jesus-shaped spirituality", makes Yahoo News.
We are on the verge - within 10 years - of a major collapse of evangelical Christianity.
His Church will always exist.  What it looks like may change.  But the existence of His Church depends on Him, and although we may stumble and make all sorts of mistakes, He remains a rock.
This breakdown will follow the deterioration of the mainline Protestant world and it will fundamentally alter the religious and cultural environment in the West.
Depends on what you mean by "mainline".  From what I understand, Christ-centered, Bible teaching churches are growing.
Within two generations, evangelicalism will be a house deserted of half its occupants.
It is quite possible, if we fail to make disciples, including not having enough children to replace ourselves plus keep up with the pace of population growth.
In the "Protestant" 20th century, Evangelicals flourished. But they will soon be living in a very secular and religiously antagonistic 21st century.
Really?  You mean Marx, Darwin, Huxley, Freud, Kinsey, Sanger, and the rest didn’t peak in the 20th century?
Intolerance of Christianity will rise to levels many of us have not believed possible in our lifetimes, and public policy will become hostile toward evangelical Christianity, seeing it as the opponent of the common good.
Again, quite possible.
Evangelicals have identified their movement with the culture war and with political conservatism.
Really, what were the alternatives?  1. Sit by as people a) worked to expel anything Christian from the public square, b) undermined parental authority and family, c) devalued human life at both ends, d) promoted destructive sexual behaviors including the sexualization of children, e) denigrated marriage, and f) promoted dependence on government instead of self, family, and church. 2. Actively work to empower the people who were doing these thing?
Evangelicals will increasingly be seen as a threat to cultural progress.
Well this is a given, because "progressives" hate authentic Christianity.
The evangelical investment in moral, social, and political issues has depleted our resources and exposed our weaknesses.
If we just stick to running churches and their picnics, and leave participation in politics, academia, media, and the arts to others, we're not helping the situation.  Are our resources depleted?  We have less money, to be sure.  But everyone does.
Being against [marriage neutering] and being rhetorically pro-life will not make up for the fact that massive majorities of Evangelicals can't articulate the Gospel with any coherence.
And it isn’t meant to.  But I think Jesus would be okay if we paused in the middle of a sermon to save an innocent person from being murdered.
We fell for the trap of believing in a cause more than a faith.
Didn't Cal Thomas already write this book years ago?
We Evangelicals have failed to pass on to our young people an orthodox form of faith that can take root and survive the secular onslaught.
We could definitely do this better.
Denominations will shrink, even vanish, while fewer and fewer evangelical churches will survive and thrive.
Some denominations may not be worth saving.  But again, evangelical churches seem to be doing well.
Despite some very successful developments in the past 25 years, Christian education has not produced a product that can withstand the rising tide of secularism. Evangelicalism has used its educational system primarily to staff its own needs and talk to itself.
So you are saying that Christian universities should have more students and should be sending more grads into secular arenas to be salt and light?
The money will dry up.
If will if we raise people to be ineffective at earning and managing their money.
Expect evangelicalism to look more like the pragmatic, therapeutic, church-growth oriented megachurches that have defined success.
There is nothing wrong with being a megachurch, per se, as long as the whole Bible is being taught, disciples are being made, and people are making connections.  Church is not supposed to be, first and foremost, a social club.
Emphasis will shift from doctrine to relevance, motivation, and personal success – resulting in churches further compromised and weakened in their ability to pass on the faith.
A very real problem.
Aggressively evangelistic fundamentalist churches will begin to disappear.
Probably not.  This prediction has been made over and over again for decades.
Evangelicalism needs a "rescue mission" from the world Christian community. It is time for missionaries to come to America from Asia and Africa.
I've said that before.  We could stand to learn some things from thriving Christians who have grown in different cultures than ours.
Will it shake lose the prosperity Gospel from its parasitical place on the evangelical body of Christ?
I sure hope so.
But is there anyone who is observing evangelicalism in these times who does not sense that the future of our movement holds many dangers and much potential?
I agree.  Has it ever been any different.

Something he neglected to mention that I think is a problem is that too much of the Church has adopted some the larger culture's disdain for men, boys, and masculinity and tendency to arrange things according to feminine sensitivities.  There are some fellowships that are trying to address that.  But if men are going to be driven away from churches, it is going to be more difficult for Christian women to find churchgoing men with whom to marry and perpetuate the Church by raising children in a strong Christian home.

Okay, here comes my tangent, comprised mainly of phrases stolen from others.

We do need more healthy, well-balanced churches.  Churches are supposed to first and foremost make disciples, then equip those disciples to serve the needs of people.  That we look good, have fun, and make friends and new business connections while doing that is great, but that shouldn't by the primary focus.  Stop buying high and selling low.  Transform the culture instead of letting the culture transform us.  Contemporary-style worship music is fine, but the lyrics should not be about how we feel.  Maybe we don't all feel that way.  The lyrics should be about who God is and what He has done.

Disciples should demonstrate a Christian lifestyle, including in their charity and their work ethic and their spending/finances – as in, we should constantly proclaim the Gospel, sometimes using words.
  We should be able to explain the reason for the hope that is within us with gentleness and respect.  We should be able to explain and defend the core teachings of Christianity.  We should know the Bible.  And while doing all of this, we should not cast pearls before swine.

Churches should stop eating their own.  When someone sins, work to bring them to repentance and restoration.  If they refuse, then send them on their way.

Churches should work to strengthen marriage without alienating the unmarried.  I could write a book on this, and I'm sure plenty of others have.  Don't encourage people to get married if they are not ready to be a spouse and if they have not found a compatible spouse.  Counsel couples planning to marry about marriage (putting them in touch with older couples who have been married well and long is a good idea).  Refuse to host and perform the ceremonies unless this couple is fit to be married and is willing to submit to accountability in their vows.  If they either or both spouses breaks their vows without repentance, hold them accountable.  Refuse to marry someone who is divorced unless reconciliation with the previous spouse is not possible.  If they go off to another church that refuses to cooperate in enforcing this, let them go.  If you are a good church, it is more their loss than yours.

We must reject unsound doctrines and practices, but have liberty in the nonessentials.

Engage the community, including the neighborhood physically surrounding the church.  Who around there needs help?  How about walking the neighborhood to prevent crime and remove blight?  Expand the area as you master it until you bump into another church's territorty.

Keep the family together for at least the main church service.
  If people can't handle kids being in the room because they sometimes get noisy, have a second service for them, before or after the main service.

Finally, avoid the cheese.  Yes, Christian media and entertainment can be good.  But it can be done poorly or it can be done well.  Cheesy stuff presented to the mainstream culture results in so much ridicule I doubt it does much good at all.

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How To Get a Leftist To Chop Down a Tree

Decorate it with symbols of joy, goodwill, and peace in honor on the incarnation and birth of Jesus.
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Are You Ready For Post-Christian America?

Christians in this country have had things relatively easy compared to most of the world through most of history.  We haven’t had to meet in secret under threat of death, we haven’t had to take up arms to defend ourselves from invading armies or hordes of Muslims, barbarians, pagans, or atheists.  We haven’t had politico-sectarian strife as in the British Isles.  Since the time of Christ’s earthly ministry, Christians have had to face the wrath of Jewish establishment authorities, oppressive pagan governments, violent pagan hordes, Islamic armies and terrorists, and atheist iron-fisted governments.  While we are right to stick up for our representation in our national, state, and municipal heritages, and our right to self-government under this Constitution, we hardly have faced the oppression that so many of our brothers and sisters have faced.  In turn, we did not force everyone in the nation to adopt Christianity, and in general, while some identifying themselves as Christians have been clumsy or annoying in the behavior, people have generally enjoyed broad freedom.

That’s because this has been, in a sense, a Christian nation.

Okay, whenever someone claims that we are or were a “Christian nation”, someone else is likely to declare that most of our founding fathers were Deists and not Christians.  Those who want us to shut up will often cite “low” church membership rolls in comparison to total population in the early days of our nation.  But in those days, being a “member” of a church typically meant that one not only attended that church regularly, but had undergone baptism and/or confirmation into that church, regularly tithed to that church, and practiced, as far as anyone knew, the morals and doctrines of that church – violation of which would mean not being a “member” until repentance and restoration  Rolls were also likely to only include the head of the household.  The pews certainly contained many more souls, and the influence of the church extended strongly beyond its walls.  The naysayers will cite some actual or perceived historical injustices or evils as evidence that we’ve never been a Christian nation.  These people can’t tell us why those things are wrong, only that they believe or feel them to be wrong, or at least contradictory to Biblical teaching…which they don’t believe anyway.

By referring to the U.S.A. as a “Christian nation”, I don’t mean that there were never injustices or evils or mistakes in our history – just like when I call myself a Christian, I don’t mean I’ve never done (and never do) unchristian things.  Certainly slavery as practiced in America was unchristian, as were actions by anyone who denied the humanity and human rights of Africans and African-Americans.

By “Christian nation”, I mean that we are a nation of individuals who have traditionally identified ourselves as Christians or affiliated with a Christian church; a nation where Christian churches are the most prominent religious institutions dotting the landscape; where you can glance at our founding documents, the writings and speeches of the founders, legislation, court decisions, proclamations, public art, marketing, and other media through most of our history and find citations from, references to, and allusions to God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ; where churches and preachers have held significant influence in public opinion; where most people publicly used and accepted basic tenets of the Bible or lessons from Biblical texts; where the Bible was used in public instruction; were the prominent academic institutions, hospitals, and charities where expressly implementing a Christian mission; where in the halls of government or academia, or in the workplace, a person could loudly and unapologetically lead a group prayer, or appeal to Christ; where the religious aspect of holidays and cerebrations were not downplayed; where crèches were common on city land around Christmas; where mottos, seals, and artwork on public buildings openly paid homage to the Christian foundations of that institution or the local or state or federal government.

The major movements and changes were accomplished with sturdy appeals to the Bible
– the exploration and colonization of the land, the American Revolution, the Emancipation, the fight against Nazi Germany and its conspirators, standing our ground through the Cold War, the fight for civil rights.  Even those who currently fight to neuter marriage licensing often misappropriate “judge not” and “love your neighbor” from the Bible.

But even as most people in the country still identify themselves as Christian (or cite Jesus or the Bible as some authority), we are becoming a post-Christian nation through the tyranny of the minority and the apathy and cowardice of those who are supposed to be salt and light.

We allowed a clause in the Constitution that was meant to prevent the adoption of one denomination as the national religion to be used to slowly but surely remove our heritage and our free exercise of our religion from the public square, to divorce our governing from natural law. Perhaps out of complacency and in a botched attempt to be welcoming to the immigrant, to be fair and tolerant and “nonjudgmental” to the atheists and hedonists as well as anyone who believed differently, we allowed the aggressive secularization of our society the degradation of our culture, and the enshrinement of license as a “right”.  Maybe we went along with it because of our own materialism.  In the process, we have trampled on our basic rights to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of association, and to do with our property and our labor what we will, as long as it wasn’t destructive.

We thought the family and church and its charities too constricting, personal responsibility and self-reliance too scary, raising our own children too burdensome, and now we are settling into the clutches of the nanny state, which gains more power the less moral and responsible its citizens, the less those citizens believe their rights and obligations - and those of everyone else - flow from God.

So out goes the Bible, the cross, prayer, and the Ten Commandments.  Out goes discernment, sound reasoning, shame, and humility.  Out go the moral constraints on sexual behavior.  Out goes the expectation of marriage as a lifetime commitment uniting a man and a woman to care for each other and their children ahead of their own wants.  Out goes valuing human life, in comes using human beings for our own convenience and and dispensing of other human beings when they are inconvenient.

In our churches, we’ve allowed another Jesus and another gospel.
  We reward people like Oprah as they recast Jesus and his teachings in a philosophical mold that is based on Eastern religious concepts antithetical to the Bible.  Their “Christianity” demands nothing of them.  It does not ask that they change their behavior.  Yes, most Americans say they believe in God or a unifying spirit, but many don’t believe that such a being has authority over their lives, or at least they don’t act like it.  After all, if we’re confronted with our sins, we cover ourselves with moral relativism, twisting Scripture (“judge not!”), and appealing to evolution as an explanation.  We want God there at the wedding, at the hospital bed, and the funeral - but not in the wallet, or the marriage, or the bedroom.

So get ready for post-Christian America, where rights are granted – and can be abridged – by the government which is not "of, by,  and for the people" but rather an elite class, and we “can’t” govern by Christian principles.  Heck, Christians are being told they shouldn’t even vote by their personal convictions.

We can see how far we’ve come. Years ago, for example, our current President was ridiculed for citing Jesus Christ as his favorite philosopher.  Yet Thomas Jefferson, whose “wall of separation” phrase in a letter has been misused by such people, compiled and presented a codification of Jesus’ moral teachings.

Right now, they’ve got enough people believing that tolerance means we can’t do anything with which they are uncomfortable.  But we are already seeing that where they gain power, they won’t even practice the true meaning of tolerance.  Those who live by their Christian principles will not only be marginalized, they will be kicked out of the classroom, fired from the job, and successfully prosecuted and sued in the courtroom.  I wonder if we’ll get to the point where killing a Christian will be okay, as long as you can cite that they expressed “hate speech fightin’ words” by affirming Christian morals, making someone else feel “threatened”.

Are you ready for post-Christian America?

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Marriage Neutering Roundup

Here is my analysis of some of the marriage neutering coverage going back to last week.

We got Malia Wollan of the Associated Press reporting on a “gay pride” parade.  I still find it odd that people hold a parade to demonstrate pride that they are turned on by the same sex.

The headline? “Marriage Freedom is Focus of Gay Pride Parade"

“Marriage freedom”?  Forcing someone else to issue you a license against their will is not a matter of freedom.  It’s a matter of coercion.
The Dykes on Bikes tossed bouquets as they led the city's 38th annual gay pride parade down Market Street.
So respectful. So much for the calls for restraint.
In an interview Sunday morning on NBC's "Meet the Press," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger called the measure "a waste of time."

"I personally believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman," Schwarzenegger said. "But at the same time I think that my, you know, belief, I don't want to force on anyone else."
But you think it is okay that we are forced to neuter marriage licenses?  Gee, thanks Arnold.  You know, I personally believe it is wrong to pirate your movies, but I don't want to force my beliefs on anyone else.
Overseas, gay pride marches in the Bulgarian capital of Sofia and the Czech Republic city of Brno came under attack Saturday by extremists who threw rocks and eggs.
Now that is ridiculous.  Such violence should be punished.  Still, you should see what is happening to Christians in many more parts of the world.
No serious injuries were reported.
Thank God.

Here are some letters printed in the Orange County Register.

Manuel Herrera of Mission Viejo:
Did Rosales wake up and decide "I am and always will be straight"? I doubt it, and there is no reason to think that a homosexual would do that either.
Attraction is different from action.
Finally, Rosales' completely ludicrous argument that now people are going to rush their horses down the aisle is not only ignorant, but insulting. Moreover, there is no likelihood of this happening soon because as far as I know, horses can't give consent.
You apparently aren’t aware of the people who seriously think animal rights and human rights should be synonymous.
Has Rosales met many animal-sexuals lately?
Do you live in a cave?  You can find this on the Internet with little effort.  It’s even been on my basic cable.
It all boils down to this: it is time for everyone, especially the government, to get out of individuals' private lives.
Then why did they get into my voting both?
At the end of the day, nothing about gay marriage will alter Rosales' or any other straight person's life.
Wrong.  Marriage licenses and ceremonies have already been neutered – for EVERYONE.
All it will do is ensure basic human (Yes, homosexuals are human) rights and further equality in our nation.
A state-issued license is not a human right.  This had nothing to do with equality.
And, hopefully, years from now, kids will learn about this time and wonder why this was such a big deal.
Yes, just like abortion "rights" all these years after Roe v. Wade, right?

Anthony Sbardellati of Tustin:
As a gay man, I can testify from first-hand experience that I was born this way.
So what?  People are born all sorts of ways, but we don’t change our laws to cater to their feelings.
And his statement that "same-sex coupling is unnatural and is never an expression of love" reveals a disturbing lack of understanding of human relationships and love.
Oh really?  Explain how.
Two gay men and two lesbian women in a committed relationship is an expression of love, regardless of whether anyone else finds it distasteful.
A state-issued marriage license only enforces the commitment that the person earning more will have to pay the person earning less should there be a divorce.  It can't create or keep love.  You and I have a different definition of love, as well.  It's not loving to encourage someone else into sinful behavior.

Chris Basom of Mission Viejo:
The fact that this issue (an initiative to legally ban gay marriage) is on our ballot (again) poignantly demonstrates the stubbornly oppressive attitudes of fringe Religious organizations.
People who recognize that marriage unites the sexes need not be fringe nor religious.  You want to talk about stubborn oppression – look at the way the activists manipulated the system and forced marriage neutering on the people of California against our will.  Also, the amendment is not to “ban” “gay” marriage.  It is to restore marriage licensing to its pre-neutering state.  This would apply to everyone, gay or straight.  Two people of the same sex could still commit and have ceremonies and live together and all of that – and in California, they could still register and get all of the legal aspects of marriage.
Why not a law against consuming pork? Eating pork is against the religions of many Californians – so why not a law to ban all from doing so?
This is a fundamental confusion on this issue.  First of all, state-issued licenses are issued by the people of California.  If the people of California don’t want those licenses neutered, neutering them is an imposition on the majority.  The analogy would be more accurate if you asked “Why can’t pork be labeled kosher?  Just because some religious people don’t think it is kosher?”  Marriage unites the sexes.  Kosher food does not contain pork.  Kosher dietary laws have never applied to all people at all times.  Meanwhile, every major religion and every society in history has recognized marriage as something uniting the sexes.
Rosales should be mindful that the Bible was used to defend the institution of slavery.
It was wrongly used to defend American slavery.  It was also rightly used to end American slavery.
The Bible was used to defend the laws forbidding interracial marriage.
No major religion has had a consensus on forbidding “interracial” marriage, and the Bible certainly doesn’t forbid it.  Freedom of speech was used to defend slavery and defend laws forbidding interracial marriage, too, so your point is silly.

Dan Johancsik of Huntington Beach:
There are so many things threatening this planet right now that deserve our attention. Why then are the morally righteous so obsessed with trivial matters like gay couples?
We are concerned about judicial tyranny and marriage licensing – not about gay couples (other than my concern that they are injuring each other through their sexual actions, through disease, domestic violence, suicide, and drug use).  If there are so many more important things, why did the activists do this to us?  You’re like an arsonist who sets a fire and then complains about water being wasted by the responding fire department.

Los Angeles Times staff writer Dan Morain had an article on the images the different sides in the Prop 8 fight are using.
Human Rights Campaign, which advocates for gay rights from its base in Washington, D.C., featured on its website a photo of Phyllis Lyon and Del Martin of San Francisco, who have lived together since the Eisenhower administration.
Remember all that complaining that the traditional marriage groups were out-of-state and they shouldn’t interfere in California?  Yeah.

What does it matter how long these two women have been together?  Without a groom, it’s not really marriage, nor should it be licensed as such, and certainly not by judicial activism over an unwilling populace.
In May, the California Supreme Court ruled that denying gays the right to marry violated the Constitution.
Sloppy language AGAIN.  Gays could have married under the law the same as any straights could have.
"There is no question the images helped," Smith said. "They showed gay and lesbian couples are like other couples. They get married, they have children.”
They are NOT just like both-sex couples.  One of the sexes is not represented.  They are a recipe with one ingredient.  And they do not create any children as a couple – none of them do.  Not one of those couples.  I guess Mother Nature is a bigot, right?

Los Angeles Times staff writer Swati Pandey files a report from India on a family member’s wedding for an arranged marriage.

Los Angeles Times staff writer Jessica Garrison talks about a San Diego pastor’s efforts on the issue.
Eight years ago, when an initiative to ban gay marriage was on the California ballot for the first time, Pastor Jim Garlow of the 2,500-member Skyline Church in San Diego County barely mentioned it from his pulpit.
This is such sloppy language.  Again, the initiative was not to “ban” “gay” marriage.  It was to reaffirm existing state licensing of marriage – regardless of sexual orientation.  It did not stop any gay people from getting marriage licenses the same way the rest of us got them, nor did it stop any ceremonies, commitments, or relationships.
The dueling messages of the state's clergy reflect passionate divisions in many faiths about the question.
I defy anyone to show me any authentic traditional religious code or scriptures that portray or encourage marriage for human beings as anything other than something uniting the sexes.  Any clergy performing or advocating counterfeit weddings is doing so in spite of their own scriptures and traditions.
Although pastors cannot urge parishioners from the pulpit to back specific candidates for office, the law does allow advocacy for legislation or initiatives.
So I guess having a Democrat politician stand in the pulpit and lead a rally in church is not endorsing a specific candidate?

Now for some letters to the Los Angeles Times.

Joel Safranek of West Hollywood, which might as well be a suburb of San Francisco:
I suggest that Pastor Jim Garlow tend to the business of his own congregation and his own faith.
That’s what he is doing.  Marriage is a sacred God-initiated institution.

Rev. Libby Tigner of Long Beach, which has a significant “gay” enclave:
Pandey confirms a truth about marriage that eludes Garlow: Values and customs regarding marriage are primarily cultural, not religious, and change over time.
It has always, everywhere, been about uniting the sexes.  Always.  That’s what makes it marriage to begin with.
Just as prejudices against interracial marriage are disappearing, so will biases against same-sex marriage. Fifty years from now, our grandchildren will wonder what all the fuss was about.
Repeating that over and over again will not make it true, but thanks for using the same old tired talking points.

Kenji Yoshino has an opinion piece in the Los Angeles Times that argues that “a constitutional ban would also likely doom the unions already on the books.”

I sure hope so.

Los Angeles Times staff writer Duke Helfand checks in on homosexuality activism’s effects on Christian denominations.
Leaders of the Presbyterian Church (USA) overturned a long-standing ban on the ordination of gays and lesbians Friday, providing yet the latest example of a religious denomination struggling with how, and whether, to incorporate homosexuality into church life.

At the same time, the church's national governing body, meeting in San Jose, refused to alter its definition of marriage, calling it a "covenant between a woman and a man." The actions by the General Assembly came the week after same-sex marriage became legal in California. They also follow the decision of a gathering of Methodists from Southern California and Hawaii, who went against their national church by voting to support same-sex couples who marry and the pastors who welcome them.
These are people who do not care what the Bible clearly teaches.  That’s like a history professor who refuses to use any media describing the past, or a restaurant owner who will not let the chefs use recipes.
Some parishes have left the Episcopal Church, prompting predictions that the issue may tear the denomination apart. In the Presbyterian Church (USA) -- the nation's largest Presbyterian group, with 2.3 million members -- Friday's actions were likely to deepen theological fissures.
Hey – everything must change because a tiny fraction of the population is sexually attracted to the same sex.  We all must bow down and cater to those feelings.
The General Assembly voted in favor of the ordination measure 54% to 46%, but its decision must still be approved by a majority of the nation's 173 regional presbyteries over the next year. Several prominent church leaders predicted it would fail.

Even so, gay rights advocates applauded the Presbyterians' decision to amend their constitution, saying the step would end discrimination that has long kept gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people from church service.
Transgender = someone who dresses like the opposite sex, and sometimes that person has had perfectly healthy body parts removed and had hormones injected in an attempt to aid in their pretending to be the opposite sex.  Why they are always lumped in with gay people, I’m not sure.
"I feel proud of my church today," said Lisa Larges, national coordinator for That All May Freely Serve, an organization that advocates for gay equality in the Presbyterian church.
Is there an organization that does the same for straight fornicators, adulterers, or active alcoholics? 
The measure approved Friday was sponsored by the Presbytery of Boston. It deletes language, approved by the General Assembly in 1996, that requires church elders, deacons and ministers to "live either in fidelity within the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman, or chastity in singleness."
You know – as the Bible prescribes.  I mean, why would a “Christian “ church want to adhere to Biblical commands, after all?

You have to hand it to the homosexuality activists.  They have been very, very effective in changing just about every major institution in our society. Unfortunately, some of those changes have come at a steep cost to the better things in our culture.

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Presbyterians Stand Up For Marriage - Mostly

Presbyterian Church USA refuses to recognize counterfeits as marriage, but doesn't punish someone who performed otherwise.  Rebecca Trounson of the Los Angeles Times reports:
The highest court of the Presbyterian Church USA has found that a California minister did not violate the church's constitution when she officiated at the [“]weddings[“] of same-sex couples in 2004 and 2005.

The decision, announced Tuesday by the church's permanent judicial commission, cleared the Rev. Jane Adams Spahr of San Rafael of misconduct and lifted an earlier ruling of censure against her by a regional church court.
So it is just fine for her to participate in a mockery of a God-initiated institution?
In the decision, the Louisville, Ky.-based panel found that the ceremonies Spahr had performed for the two lesbian couples could not be considered marriages.
Look at that.  They got something right.
Spahr, 65, who has fought for many years for full inclusion of gay and lesbian Presbyterians in the national church, said she was grateful she had been cleared of the misconduct charge but disappointed by the finding on marriage.
Funny, my church has full inclusion of gay people.  It condemns, however, using your genitals in sinful ways and does not make a mockery of marriage.
"In not seeing same-gender marriages as marriages, the commission holds to the idea that we are separate and unequal," Spahr said in a telephone interview. "And that causes me great pain."
You know, you can always find another church instead of trying to impose your antibiblical ego stroke on an unwilling group.  And two men and two women do not equal the union of a man and a woman.  Men and women are different.  A representative of each sex must be present for a marriage to exist.  Only one kind of the three couples can ever produce children or unite the sexes.
Sara Taylor, Spahr's attorney, said she and her client also were troubled by parts of the ruling.

"It's worrying that the court seems to be attempting to legislate future marriages and restrict them," Taylor said.
Oh yes, worrisome.  Worrisome for a church to follow the Bible.  So no restrictions?  The church should recognize “marriage” between a member and an unbeliever?  Between a parent and a child?  Between siblings?  Between people already married to other people?  Of one person to himself?  Or only between people who have a vocal enough lobby?
"Can you imagine if I said no to these couples, after they come to me and want me to work with them?" Spahr said.
Responsible ministers say “no” all of the time.  It’s called being faithful and discouraging sin.
She said she was now counseling six couples, three gay and three straight, and said she expected to officiate at weddings for all of them.
I wouldn’t have wanted someone to perform my wedding if they couldn’t tell the difference and had so little regard for the Word of God.

In our country, you should have the freedom to commit to each other, live together, celebrate your love, or whatever.  It is ridiculous for anyone to try to stop you through the force of government.  But there are some things in the Bible and some things in natural law that there’s just no getting around.  Holy matrimony is something between a man and a woman, and churches that still recognize that should be able to operate by that conviction.  If you want to continue being a member or person of authority in that church, you should agree to follow their rules.  Otherwise, you can leave.  Church membership and employment are voluntary, and there are many other churches out there.

Christianity is supposed to change you.  It isn't supposed to be the other way around.
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Subtle Pop Culture Jabs at the Bible

Trashing Christians or Christian ideals or the Bible is common in advice columns, pop music songs, television shows, and films – any medium where the author’s statement often goes unchallenged by immediate feedback to which the rest of the audience has access.  The notions presented often float into the mind of the passive observer, who often will not subject it to critical analysis.

I’ve written before about “hit and run Bible mockers”.  But I want to discuss something a little different that is in this recent edition of advice column Dear Margo.

HAPPY WITH OUR OWN BELIEFS, THANK YOU writes:
My sister-in-law is a born-again Christian and very outspoken about her beliefs.
Did you know that “born-again Christian” is a redundant term?  All Christians are born-again.  Otherwise, they’re not Christians, even if they attend church regularly.
She agitates my husband to no end when we are at family gatherings. I can't think of a wedding that we've been to in the last 10 years where she hasn't cornered us about being saved.
Sounds like she really cares about you.
We've tried to tell her that we have our own beliefs, and I usually walk away, but my husband gets very stressed and angry and gets into it with her every time.
It is your husband’s choice whether or not to get angry.  He doesn’t have to say anything to her, or really listen to what she is saying.
She even sends tracts to us in birthday cards and other letters. I am tired of having to deal with this. Any suggestions on how to handle this zealot?
Well, you could cite her own Scriptures in a respectful way.  I’m assuming she believes what the Bible teaches.  The Bible teaches not to “throw pearls before swine”.  In context, it is a reference to leaving people alone when they don’t want to hear the Gospel.  Simply move on to someone who does want to talk about it.  As described, this woman isn’t being a very good representative of Christ.  Christians are called to give a reason for the hope that is within them with gentleness and respect, not to hound people who’ve heard what you’ve had to say and don’t agree and don't want to hear anymore.

Instead of a variation of this respectful and possibly effective tactic, Dear Margo suggests a different approach.
Because your husband, however, seems unable to walk away, suggest he try a new approach when responding to his sister. Here's some early American history I read somewhere: Thomas Paine, considered by many a de facto Founding Father, ridiculed the Bible as a long fairy tale of crime and fantasy.
So Paine should be cited as a “de facto Founding Father”?  What does being an influence on the founding of the United States of America have to do with the fact that this woman is saying stuff that these people don’t want to hear?  If anything, the First Amendment says “let her talk” and “let her be free to have her faith”.

Perhaps the fellow could say that he believes the Bible to be a long fairy tale of crime and fantasy.  But that will only continue the discussion, so it is bad advice.  Of course the Bible records crime and fantasies, because people commit crimes and have fantasies.  So what?  This does nothing to negate the truth or authority of the Bible.
Thomas Jefferson took a razor to the New Testament and cut out everything he thought silly, evil or mystical.
Again, what does this have to do with anything, unless you believe that Paine and Jefferson are the ultimate authorities in what is believable, sensible, and moral?
He was left with a very short book.
Yes, I book that talks about good and evil and God is going to record a lot of evil and supernatural things.  So what?
Then your husband should try to make a case for atheism.
She didn’t write that he was an atheist.  She wrote that she wanted to end the discussions.  This advice stinks.  Too bad a lot of people are going to read it and try the next time someone cites their belief the Bible, even if it is the first time they do so.
Apoplexy guaranteed.
So she should try to get her husband to try to get a rise of her sister-in-law, thereby making the situation worse?  Something tells me that Dear Margo couldn’t pass up a jab at the Bible and so she did it even though it meant giving lousy advice.

Again, I don’t excuse a lack of social grace or politeness.
  But I’ve got news for Dear Margo.  The Bible has survived attacks from people much smarter and better at making the attacks than you.  The Bible has provided good advice and guidance to people for thousands of years, and will continue to do so, should the Lord tarry, long after you are dead.  It accurately describes the human condition, God’s redemption of humankind, how to avoid or deal with the pitfalls of life (with much better constancy than you), and how to have a relationship with God.

Game over.

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