Posted by
Playful Walrus on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:27:56 PM
I'm getting a little frustrated with posting comments on the Townhall columns. There are times when the comment doesn't appear right away or for a while, and that makes it difficult for me to know if my comment appeared at all, and so I run the risk of having my comment repeated if I re-submit it. I'm not sure if it is a problem on my end or Townhall's.
I wanted to respond to AlphaOmega's response to
Frank Pastore's latest posting. My response may be appearing over there several times. I don't know yet. But I'm going to post them here in case they don't appear at all.
"The fact of the matter is, that California's Constitution, as it is written, says nothing against same sex marriages."
It doesn't say anything against labeling a bottle of water as "milk", either, but that doesn't mean that the people who wrote it didn't know the difference between "milk" and "water", or wanted water to be labeled as milk.
"If we leave the Constitution alone, gay people will enjoy their equal rights, along with everybody else."
Gay people had equal rights before the court imposition. Gay people have equal rights now. They will still have equal rights if Prop 8 passes. Never confuse freedoms with rights. State-issued licenses are not rights. Not for straight people nor gay people. Gay people had the same access to state-issued licenses as straight people before the court imposition. That most did not want to use that access does not mean that there was something wrong with the licensing.
"Gay people can now marry in California."
Same-sex couples, regardless of the orientation of the individuals, can get marriage licenses. By the way, California treats registered domestic partners (in a law that actually discriminates against both-sexes couples!) as spouses, so there was no need to neuter marriage licensing.
"The California legislation, voting in their majority as representatives of the people TWICE in the past voted in favor of gay marriage, only to be vettoed by the governor."
They voted to neuter marriage licensing, to be more accurate. Gay people were already getting married and same-sex couples were already getting "married" before.
"The majority of the people, speaking through their representatives, approved of gay marriage."
Not really. There had been a direct vote of the people to affirm bride-groom marriage licensing. The elected representatives frequently make unpopular decisions. And yes, we are stupid enough to elect and re-elect them.
Really, if Californians really are in favor of neutering marriage, why wasn't an initiative put on the ballot to do just that? After all, it is the people who are issuing marriage licenses in the first place.